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: Actually, I think you missed the point. I'm not talking about edit warring. I was referring to your own rather blunt commentary (recent proof in the Edit Summaries - ''again: stop edit warring'' and ''complaints completely immaterial''. Both are very brusque and miss the fact that I was making an observation). On editing in general, something that also needs to be addressed are scenarios whereby somewhat inexperienced editors stick to their guns, even though there has been compromise and repeated attempts to explain the flaws in their logic. It has to go through Request for Comment etc etc and creates more work before anything can get done. But, no matter. I will discuss where possible and if there are additional issues contact another editor I know who is experienced, affable and above all patient. [[User:Thebladesofchaos|Thebladesofchaos]] ([[User talk:Thebladesofchaos|talk]]) 04:19, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
: Actually, I think you missed the point. I'm not talking about edit warring. I was referring to your own rather blunt commentary (recent proof in the Edit Summaries - ''again: stop edit warring'' and ''complaints completely immaterial''. Both are very brusque and miss the fact that I was making an observation). On editing in general, something that also needs to be addressed are scenarios whereby somewhat inexperienced editors stick to their guns, even though there has been compromise and repeated attempts to explain the flaws in their logic. It has to go through Request for Comment etc etc and creates more work before anything can get done. But, no matter. I will discuss where possible and if there are additional issues contact another editor I know who is experienced, affable and above all patient. [[User:Thebladesofchaos|Thebladesofchaos]] ([[User talk:Thebladesofchaos|talk]]) 04:19, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

== Disappointed ==

Hi Rjanag, I am extremely disappointed by [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adoption_of_Ala%27a_Eddeen&diff=prev&oldid=418031803 by your edit here]. I hoped that an admin with your experience is able to exercisesome common sense. Of course the articles that are displaying at the main page should not be tagged. I said it was unwritten policy, but I actually found something [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Additional_rules#Other_additional_rules_for_the_article Please see here]. It states: "The article is likely to be rejected for unresolved edit warring or having [[Wikipedia:Template messages/Disputes|dispute tags]]" So if the hook that have tags are rejected, of course the articles that are already at the Main page should not be tagged. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lihaas&diff=prev&oldid=409046239 HJ Mitchell understands it] Do you?

Besides you acted without knowing prior history. The article was nominated on deletion and kept. It was never tagged before it already been put to the main page.

Poor, poor wikipedia that has administrators as you are. Please have a nice day.--[[User:Mbz1|Mbz1]] ([[User talk:Mbz1|talk]]) 22:46, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

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Hello Rjanag. I was wondering: are you still in Xinjiang? If you still are, are you able to (if and when possible) have a look at a PRC ID Card for a local Xinjiang resident, and be able to note the Uyghur text that appears on it for entries like name, gender, etc? (it can be anyone, so it's best to find a Han or someone you know well, as Uyghurs might become a little weary if foreign tourists ask to look at your ID). I was after official Uyghur translations of each of the headings on the ID card, so that I could include it within my table in the JMSFZ article. I suppose you could use a photograph or a text note if you are familiar with the language. Cheers, -- 李博杰  | Talk contribs email 06:50, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm back in BJ now, but my friend I was visiting is still in Xinjiang, so I could probably get him to take a photo of someone's ID and then add the translations to the article. He has a lot of Uyghur friends there, so I don't t hink it'll be a problem. rʨanaɢ (talk) 09:25, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(OT:) by the way, if you're at an internet cafe in China, be careful as some of them might have keyloggers, as I have heard from a few university IT students. Check Windows Task Manager if you can for unexplained programs running. (relevant to WP:SECURITY, but also applies to anything else you may use as well, such as email and banking) Using https://secure.wikimedia.org/ (in case there are listeners) and changing your passwords when you get back might also be important. -- 李博杰  | Talk contribs email 09:53, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Three(?) major subdivisions of linguistics

Hey Rjanag,

You noted in your edit to the Linguistics article "if you're gonna create this arrangement, don't call it 'grammar', which neglects structure/form-related fields like phonetics and phonology)". I agree 100% with the main content of your edit description, but I have to ask -- "create this arrangement"? What do you mean -- the division of the field into 3 parts (structure/grammar/other)? I have to say I'm the slightest bit uncomfortable with that division myself (from my perspective, it gives "the study of meaning" too much weight), but I was just trying to copy from what was already in the article lede. If you are uncomfortable too, is this something we should bring up on the talk page? Some sort of nice overview of the field is needed nevertheless, but there may be a better way to contextualize content that is still easily readable.

Harvard Girl

Hey Rjanag. I see that you are a frequent editor of the Harvard Girl article and you've reverted any attempts to add clarification to the scholarships awarded being need-based as opposed to merit-based. I personally don't care that much about it, and was just trying to provide readers with a clearer understanding of the situation while adding very little text. In fact, only two additional words are required to make this fact clear so there would be no misunderstanding from the reader's viewpoint. Since it's clear another user agrees with this clarification being a helpful addition to the article, I was just wondering what your reasoning was behind removing it. Do you think it's superfluous? Or is there another reason?

In my mind, it probably shouldn't be mentioned at all that she received a scholarship - that is essentially just revealing that her family falls under a certain income level. But if it must be mentioned, as it's currently written, it's very ambiguous to the reader as to why the scholarship was awarded. To a typical reader, it definitely sounds like it's merit-based due to the current wording. So, I thought simply adding the word "need-based" to an article that is over 1,000 words if it provides the reader with a truer picture of the facts would make sense. Or simply eliminating those two phrases from the article would also be a suitable alternative in my mind. Getting into Harvard is certainly a great accomplishment and extremely difficult. Adding ambiguous text/accomplishments to make it sound even more impressive seems unnecessary. Providing wikipedia readers with a clearer picture of the situation by adding two words seems like a good idea in my mind, but you must feel differently. You said to check out Be namo's talk page, but all I saw was that the two of you were in a revert war. I didn't see an actual discussion of the edit. I was just wondering your rationale as to why it would make the article worse based on wikipedia guidelines to include that clarification (or get rid of the mention of scholarship all together). Take it easy. Cheers! -Bluedog423Talk 06:01, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The last editor was changing the text for a different reason than you were, so it's not clear that he "agrees"; that editor was trying to argue that the text was inaccurate because Harvard doesn't offer scholarships (see the edit summaries on the first page of the edit history), which is false, and which is why I reverted him. I now see that your edit was about clarity rather than accuracy, so I may have been a little quick on the trigger. As for whether the information is useful in the article, I tend to agree with you that it's not super-helpful to the reader and can be removed from the article without any real harm done, so feel free to go ahead and remove it. rʨanaɢ (talk) 00:18, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Current Wikipedia birthdays

Category:Current Wikipedia birthdays, which you created, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Logan Talk Contributions 20:32, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ranking

A reliable ranking is the priority info to indroduce a college's reputation instead telling people bunch of awards issued by numerous differnt parties. I think most American students need this info before they make their decision. This article seems focus on advertising by mostly showing positive things and avaoiding negative things. According to Wikipedia's rule, doesnt matter if it's positve/negative, all facts about Kenyon College should be mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Texaspublic (talkcontribs) 01:22, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

you guys are patient as hell...

... he just doesn't get it. Maybe his username shoulda been some kind of Omen. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 14:52, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Image file format

Hi, I saw your message to APL and I am curious. What is the format of the files you want to convert to grey scale? Cuddlyable3 (talk) 08:52, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Almost all .jpg, a few .png. I have since done them all by hand (although it would still be nice to know how to do this, for future reference!). rʨanaɢ (talk) 09:24, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Coincidentally I am doing the same thing with .jpg files, I convert them to .bmp and work at byte level. From 54: (36H:) the pixel colours are represented as triplets B, G, R. I read the triplets and convert them to Y, Cb, Cr using these coefficients. Then replace B, R, G with Y, Y, Y to get the grey scale picture. I did this as part of an effort to extract new detail from the Zapruder film. My first attempt to invert the 2-D point spreading gave an encouraging result but shows coloured grain when I sharpen B, R, G equally. I anticipate that sharpening Y alone will do better. The available scan of the film has 486 jpg images.. I have no experience with png's. (GIF's's are easy to change to grey scale at the palette). Cuddlyable3 (talk) 17:11, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I see. I don't know much about that. In the past I have been able to convert large numbers of images using the Easy Image Converter, which has a simple command line interface (but unfortunately, the one thing it doesn't so is PNG to other formats, although it can convert other formats to PNG...which is why I still have a few PNGs here). I noticed that GIMP has a command line interface as well so I assumed there should be something simple, like a desaturate() function, that I could just paste into a batch file a lot of times and run the batch file on the folder...unfortunately, I never even managed to figured out how to run GIMP from the command line, and the documentation available doesn't seem very helpful. rʨanaɢ (talk) 23:57, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In GIMP I manage to load a directory full of image files to be layers in a .gif animation, but I don't know the command language. If you have $30 this program does what you want. If you prefer to keep your $30 then look into the free ImageMagick. The free Easy Image Converter web page has an e-mail address so you could ask whether they have a .png possibility. Disclaimer: I haven't tried these programs! Cuddlyable3 (talk) 21:18, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I just found EXACTLY what will do your conversions. Download www.irfanview.com. It's a free image program that I use. Under File - Batch conversion is a dialog that is easy to set up. (Irfan also has a command language which is well documented but you won't need that.) Cuddlyable3 (talk) 17:04, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome! Thanks, rʨanaɢ (talk) 22:38, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Apostrophe template

I believe Template:`s/doc is backwards. The first sentence, "This template allows quick entry of an apostrophe and "s" after italicized titles", should be "unitalicized" instead of "italicized". The rest of the paragraph, which matches the first paragraph of Template:'s/doc instead of contrasting with it, should be similarly reversed. This would make it consistent with Template:'/doc, Template:`/doc, and H13. I almost fixed it myself but your name is on it. Art LaPella (talk) 06:25, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, you're right; I've fixed it. I think whenever I made that template I probably just pasted over the documentation from {{'s}} without looking at it. I'm not sure why I put my signature on it...oops! (so ashamed of my younger Wikipedia self...) rʨanaɢ (talk) 10:25, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Leehom edit war

My intention is in no way nationalistic. What I want is to keep the facts neutral that's why I do think it's the best way to write down Asian American (because that's a widely known fact). About the ancestry part, I do not think that the source (a yahoo site of China which I assume is biased) can proof that Leehom is really from China. News can be manipulated all the time and just because a journalist claims certain things, it still could be wrong. In addition, I know Leehom's ancestry, passport etc. has been discussed since a long time, but I do find it totally silly to put ancestry in his biography because for all other major singers, it was never put on. That's why I would stick with Asian American (Sorry bout the edit war, I didn't know how to leave messages, but I do hope you consider the neutrality of the Chinese Yahoo news as a source.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.26.22.188 (talk) 16:05, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus for the current version was reached through extended discussions with multiple users; in particular see User talk:Rjanag/Archive7#Leehom Wang's Nationality and Talk:Leehom Wang#Nationality and Taiwanese/Chinese politics. Wikipedia operates on consensus, so if you disagree with this wording you should start a new discussion at the article's talk page. The reason we settled on the current wording is because it is factual (no one disputes that he's of Chinese descent or working in Taiwan) and doesn't make strong claims about his national identity like "Chinese American" and "Taiwanese American" do. As for ancestry and origin in the infobox, this is a standardized format that's used on over 500 articles. rʨanaɢ (talk) 18:11, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

people using the wrong script

i believe arabic is the official script for the kazakh language in China, yet people use cyrillic in articles relating to kazakhs in China, cyrillic is only official in kazakhstan. Same problem on some mongols in china related articles where people are using cyrillic whereas mongolian script is the official script of that language in China, and probably used in writing official documents in the autonomous regions. And although salar does not have an official script, i believe more of it is written in arabic than in latin, and the latin script in some wikipedia articles was made up by some unknown guy, some sources i have say that the actual latin script in use in China is based off pinyin and not the one that is currently seen on the aritcles. Do you know kazakh or salar or have any way of knowing how to write them in arabic script?Дунгане (talk) 04:39, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

specific articles i am concerned about- Kazakh was written in cyrillic here yet arabic script is official for kazakh in china

i deleted latin alphabet on xunhua salar county article

on Qinghai, oirat mongolian is written in cyrillic and khalka mongol in latin alphabet. Salar is written in alphabet. Oirat and khalka in China use traditional mongol script as official, not latin or cyrillic and i doubt any mongols in qinghai know cyrillic for their language.

If you feel i was wrong in the removal i will not object but i feel they should be replaced with arabic and mongolian writing since they are the official ones in those regions.Дунгане (talk) 04:54, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

i have three sources which all say salar have used arabic script in the past for hundreds of years and in the present now, though its not official- [1] Two sources say they have arabic script, and that a pinyin based latin script was developed for them, but latin is barely used. Neither arabic nor latin is official, but judging from sources arabic is more common and has historical precedent. [2] [3] the latin script used in the articles was most certainly not the one created in china based on pinyin, it looked like someone copied and pasted the Turkish alphabet or Azerbaijani alphabet and applied it to salar- [4] [5]. Therefore it is really unsourced.Дунгане (talk) 05:04, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately I do not know any Salar or Kazakh; if you're looking for sources, though, I imagine you can find some if you look for stuff by Arienne Dwyer, who does a lot of research on Salar and may have written about Kazakh in China as well. As far as I know, Kazakh in China, when written, still uses Cyrillic script, although I don't have a source for you. rʨanaɢ (talk) 06:40, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wouldn't it make more sense...

...to redirect the "eventual archive" to your talk page and then link to the "eventual archive" whenever you are linking something. This way you can still enjoy the benefits of the orange bar? –xenotalk 18:32, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, that is a good idea! And it might help avoid misunderstandings like this. When I have a free moment I'll take your advice and shuffle things around a bit. rʨanaɢ (talk) 23:28, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Rjanag. You have new messages at 俠刀行's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

--俠刀行 (talk) 18:19, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New incident at Xinjiang

Take a look at the page and add your input on the talk page, please. Looks like we have someone who has been recently involved in tendentious editing. Thanks --HXL's Roundtable, and Record 23:22, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

YeaH, Rjanag, you know more about this topic. There's some edit war going on. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 23:31, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK templates TfD

FYI: Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:Did you know.2FQueue.2Fdoingcredits

I don't know if these are used for anything, but I noticed the nominator had not notified you. 28bytes (talk) 07:55, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Objection to deleting English Phonetic Alphabet:

Hey Rjanag. This message is to object your poposal on deleting the article about English Phonetic Alphabet. I do apologize for not making it clear that English Phonetic Alphabet is applied and taught in worldwide. It was fielded in private school in South Korea during 2010 and is currently used to teach children at aboriginal reservation area in Northern Ontario. In addition, EPA is acknowledged by TESL (teachers of English as a second language) Ontario, the most creditable and recognized non-profitable teaching professional association in Ontario that providing support for teachers, students, and government bodies. Workshops were held in TESL Ontario 2010 fall conference to help the industry and the public learn about EPA. The lesson was webcasted and is available in the TESL Ontario Conference Webcast Archives. Usually TESL will publish lesson in conferences onto their website 4 months later. I expect it will come out in early February and it can greatly improve the notability of this wiki article. While waiting for this big reference, what I will do is to find other creditable citations from schools and institutions that are implimenting EPA. If you have any further comments please discuss with me. Thanks a lot! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Williamchacha (talkcontribs) 19:01, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if you might consider refactoring your comment, as I'd already responded to the new editor, and your response is a bit bighty. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 01:17, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I stand by my comment that an editor who wants to edit articles but can't write is not a particularly valuable contributor. But, given that this editor has apparently made other contributions that are more or less ok (see, for example, this), I don't quite know what is up here (maybe there are multiple people using this account, maybe he's editing drunk right now, who knows). rʨanaɢ (talk) 01:30, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 01:33, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Online Ambassadors

I saw your recent contributions at DYK and I clicked on over to your user page and was pretty impressed. Would you be interested in helping with the WP:Online_Ambassadors program? It's really a great opportunity to help university students become Wikipedia contributers. I hope you apply to become an ambassador, Sadads (talk) 02:57, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting coincidence, I was just looking at that page several hours before your message and thinking about applying. I think I will probably do it; still need to think it over a bit more. Best, rʨanaɢ (talk) 06:51, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you do! If you have any questions, just ask.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 01:18, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The deed is done! rʨanaɢ (talk) 02:24, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! This should be an easy one to evaluate; I expect we'll get back to you quickly.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 02:29, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

About English Phonetic Alphabet

Hi my name is Judy Thompson and I am an ESL teacher in Canada. I really appreciate the effort you put into your response and I would like to reply to your comments.

First of all you are good. You are absolutely right about some things - the Wikipedia entry was created by a Chinese co-op student and there are some basic errors Asia /Ay Zhu/for starters and pure was transcribed /pyUwr/ - sorry about that and thank you.

While the Chinese student is unfamiliar with IPA and phonetics I taught IPA for many years and am very familiar with phonetics. You and I are coming from completely different places. I taught IPA to advanced English students who had been practicing their mistakes for many, many years before their overall English competency was at a level (Canadian Bench Mark 6) where they were eligible to enrol in pronunciation classes. By then there was a tremendous amount of fossilization that had to be unlearned and unlearning requires far more effort than learning properly in the first place. The English Phonetic Alphabet was developed in response to the needs of immigrants to learn to speak English quickly and effectively and is in many respects the antithesis of IPA.

There are 1.5 billion people using English as a learned language in the world today and an estimated less than 1% of them can use the IPA efficiently. EPA is for the rest of these learners and they love it.

They love it for two reasons. It makes sense and they don’t have to be a linguist to use it. We really are coming from completely different places, IPA is high technical and EPA is purely practical.

The pitfalls with IPA are irreconcilable. It isn’t logical for example /i:/ or /iy/ doesn’t logically represent an ‘e’ sound to anyone but the French. /j/ logically is the first sound of jump and jam not yellow. Many of the IPA symbols just don’t make sense and the myriad of Greek characters are alienating. IPA is not a viable tool for the vast majority of English language learners.

Let’s address the rest of your comments in this light and examine the English Phonetic Alphabet on its own merit.

Schwa is a very important part of spoken English. After a functional phonetic alphabet and stressed syllables it is the third most important thing students have to learn. As a tiny version of /u/ as in mustard, that symbol suffices to start. Avoiding two syllable words for rank beginners might be an easy solution.

EPA teachers avoid all linguistic jargon. Phonemic alphabet, glottal stop, voiced dental fricative etc are wonderful clarifying tools for linguists but they are the mortal enemies of the EPA target users

Bold is not the way stressed syllables are distinguished in handwriting – just making them bigger is simple and effective with an ordinary pen. You make a good point about the capitals and if we change the consonants that will also eliminate the need for underlining anything! SH as in /wiSh/, CH as in /wiCh/, keeping TH for θ and using Th for ð, Ng and Zh completes the set - an definite improvement As provincial as it sounds, air in and air out explain the phenomenon so simply for learners they can immediately create both those sounds and the purpose is served.

Changing the font size for capitals is a nuisance especially writing a text book, but it is worth the effort and you get really fast at it. In a word document written in font size 12, reducing the caps to a 10 still leaves them larger than their lowercase counterparts and easily recognizable as caps. I could be wrong but I don’t think there is that flexibility in Wikipedia. Caps and font functions are part of all computers and not a big deal to incorporate in Word for classroom use.

Conversely IPA uses many symbols that are difficult to find and use. And ʃ is constantly mistaken for s in handwriting. I seriously doubt anyone looks at /eI ʒә/ and thinks Asia.

With some clarification perhaps now you can see why this alphabet has been so warmly embraced by the ESL community. It is catching on like wildfire. EPA is currently being used in hundreds of schools in 16 countries around the world. There are new editions and new textbook being printed this spring and the changes you initiated will be part of the product. Again, thank you very much for your educated attention to this vital language tool.

As for the dictionary – dictionaries reflect language they don’t create it. With a viable replacement for the archaic IPA all current dictionaries are obsolete and we can look for them to be replaced in the next decade. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Williamchacha (talkcontribs) 20:43, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Thompson,
Thank you for your reply. I was looking forward to having a frank discussion about the issues I raised, but unfortunately I feel that your message above is more focused on supplying talking points to promote the EPA—understandable, since you're posting in a public forum. If you would like to continue the discussion privately you may e-mail me by enabling e-mail in your Preferences page and then returning to my page and clicking the "e-mail this user" link in the toolbox on the left-hand side of the page. rʨanaɢ (talk) 23:34, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Linking icons

Thanks for catching that. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 20:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GOW

Thanks for being the voice of reason. I may need help on another article as well List of God of War characters. Regards Thebladesofchaos (talk) 21:54, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks to be all OK, and things have settled down. Thanks again. Thebladesofchaos (talk) 06:50, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Or not. There may be a blind reversion coming by another user, but have placed reasons on Talk Page for changes - [6]. Regards. Thebladesofchaos (talk) 02:17, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

sorta-kinda mentoring for Public Policy Project

Hello, Rjanag. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.Boonefrog (talk) 21:35, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ambassador

Hi Rjanag, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind being a Wikipedia mentor for me. I saw you on the Online Ambassadors list for the Public Policy Initiative but interestingly enough I had just seen your name under the edits history for my alma mater, Kenyon College. It looks like you have a lot of Wikipedia wisdom to share as well! Thanks! Lmissik (talk) 01:48, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I would be happy to help. Just drop me a message to let me know what your assignment is and what sort of editing you plan on doing, and then I will see what I can do! Judging by your edits so far, it looks like you're already quite familiar with the editing basics, so we won't need to spend a lot of time on the less exciting things like learning formatting. rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:30, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! I just wanted to let you know that I am about to start listing possible sources and a basic outline for my group's wikipedia article on my sandbox. If you look at it and have any suggestions, let us know! I think the title of the article with be along the lines of "United States solid waste policy." The professor clarified some aspects of the project to us in class just yesterday, so we had to revise a few of our ideas. Thanks for your help! Lmissik (talk) 02:26, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Please have a look:User talk:Midnightblueowl#Chinese New Left POV pushing , and this kind of WP:Disruptive editing has to be stopped before more damage is caused by him. Arilang talk 22:16, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not taking any action on anyone unless someone first supplies clear evidence of POV-pushing. The only place I have encountered this user before is on Mao: The Unknown Story, where some of his edits were reverted but other editors considered them good faith. You yourself have been disruptive at that article and its talk page.
So if you want something done, explain what makes this user's edits POV, and provide diffs.
Also, do not canvass. rʨanaɢ (talk) 22:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have begun to collect "evidence" of Midnightblueowl's POV pushing:User:Arilang1234/Draft/POV pushing by Midnightblueowl, please have a look and point out any error if there is one. And his response:Talk:Cultural Revolution#Chinese New Left is just not convincing enough.

Arilang talk 23:37, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Need your help

Please have a look:Talk:Barbarians in East Asian cultures#Requested move and help move the page back to it's original name? Arilang talk 02:39, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I figured since the RPG Classics site was linked ont he page, it would be of no problem to have my website linked to it. Although, not yet, My site will contain all the information to the game I can possibly do. RPG Classics is just another fan site created by one person, and actually has somewhat less information than my site does (excluding the health based information of the bosses and such). If I have to have my fan-site removed from the links, then I do not see it fair as the RPG Classics fan-site isn't being removed. In what way would I have to change my site to "follow" the guidelines? I am not using it strictly as advertising for money purposes or any of that, but a way for the Legaia (Page for the game I editteD) community to get together considering it's really small these days. If a person can use the site to view any kind of information that can be of help to them in the game, along with going to the forums to communicate with other people about the game, I think it would bring a community back to the game if you see what I am saying. 75.97.14.223 (talk) 01:54, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The guidelines on external linking have more information about what types of likes are and are not considered appropriate for Wikipedia articles. As for the RPG Classics link, for what it's worth, we have some essays (not official policies) called "other stuff exists" and "don't add sewage to the already polluted pond", which basically say that just because there is something wrong elsewhere in an article (or elsewhere in the project) doesn't mean we should continue adding other things like that. Anyway, I agree with you that the RPG Classics site appears to be just another fansite and s hould probably be removed; if you want to go ahead and remove it I would not object.
As for trying to get the community together, that is a noble goal, but unfortunately Wikipedia is not supposed to be used as a vehicle for community-building (see What Wikipedia is not). rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:33, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Thanks for spotting and reverting the vandalism on my userpage, I really appreciate it! ʙʌsʌwʌʟʌ spik ʌp! 09:42, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks!

Hey, thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page! —Entropy (T/C) 18:22, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Ambassador Program Newsletter: 13 February 2011





This is the second issue of the Wikipedia Ambassador Program Newsletter, with details about what's going on right now and where help is needed.



  • Userboxes and profiles - Add an ambassador userbox to your page, and make sure you've added your mentor profile!
  • Be a coordinating ambassador - Pick and class and make sure no students fall through the cracks.
  • New screencasts - Short videos on watchlists and a number of other topics may be useful to students.
  • Updates from Campus Ambassadors - Ambassadors are starting to report on classroom experiences, both on-wiki and on the Google Group.
  • Other news - There's a new on-wiki application for being an Online Ambassador, and Editing Friday #2 is today!
  • Things you can do - This is just a sample; if you're eager for something to do, there's plenty more.

Delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 18:25, 11 February 2011 (UTC) [reply]

This came in today. I left a note on Talk:Flag of East Turkistan. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 14:13, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK discussion of Jeanne Galzy

It seems to be stuck now. Since you were the one who pulled it from the queue, and from your last comment you seem to be ok with it now, could you check off on it? LadyofShalott 03:40, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note. Since I am involved I would not feel comfortable approving and selecting the hook (since it would basically amount to me rejecting the previous hook, insisting on a new one, and then promoting the very hook I insisted on). You could consider leaving a message at WT:DYK asking for another reviewer. rʨanaɢ (talk) 21:32, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough - thank you for the reply. I'll post a note where you have suggested. LadyofShalott 21:49, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Johnny come lately here: I've asked BushRanger to move it along to one of the prep areas, since there is an agreed-upon hook. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 04:59, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't edit warring per se, I was just warning him that he can't just go around messing with articles' styles without an explanation whatsoever. For the record, that wasn't the only page he edited inaccurately or the first time he had been warned. I'll back down for now, but I will revert his edits eventually. SnapSnap 01:21, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you were edit warring: [7][8][9]. It doesn't matter if he was right or not (for what it's worth, I looked over his edits at other pages and some were appropriate and some not; he has since been warned about making these changes without discussing); edit warring is not appropriate either way. rʨanaɢ (talk) 04:26, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mentoring students: be sure to check in on them

This message is going out to all of the Online Ambassadors who are, or will be, serving as mentors this term.

Hi there! This is just a friendly reminder to check in on what your mentees are doing. If they've started making edits, take a look and help them out or do some example fixes for them, if they need it. And if they are doing good, let them know it!

If you aren't mentoring anyone yet, it looks like you will be soon; at least one large class is asking us to assign mentors for them, and students in a number of others haven't yet gotten to asking ambassadors to be their mentors, but may soon. --Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 20:08, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am new to wikipedia editing and am exploring it in my trade policy class. I figured you would be a good mentor because you edit articles on China and I used to live and work there. Emptybride (talk) 23:10, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Moves of Jilu Mandarin, etc

Please go to that page's talk to give your input, before enough users who are not knowledgeable enough chime in. Thanks. --HXL's Roundtable and Record 06:27, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war on Uyghur people

Hey Rjanag! If you have time, please look into the edit war going on in Uyghur people, which stirred up due to one user questioning the significance of Uyghurs in Turkey. Also, If you have additional time, there's also a debate going on in Talk:Hindi-Urdu about transliteration/transcription. Thanks, ʙʌsʌwʌʟʌ spik ʌp! 20:39, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again Rjanag, this user has been removing legitimate comments on his talk page (which is perfectly fine), but putting "vandalism" as the edit summary, even after I asked them not to do so. Is there a policy against this, and if so, what should be done? Thanks, ʙʌsʌwʌʟʌ spik ʌp! 09:26, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's rude, but there's not really anything that can be done about it. Anyway, I've given the user a final warning regarding edit warring. rʨanaɢ (talk) 14:45, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Uyghur people

Alright. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 17:33, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Online Ambassador Program

Please take a look at this project page and see if you can be a mentor to one of the many Areas of Study. If you can, please put your name in the "Online Mentor" area of the Area of Study of your choice and then contact the students you will be working with. As the Coordinating Online Ambassador for this project, please let me know if I can be of assistance. Take Care...NeutralhomerTalk04:21, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

God of War

Greetings. Actually, if you take a close look I have been trying to improve the articles and compensate for what are largely questionable edits on account of poor spelling, grammar and other issues. These articles attract their fair share of fans who at times don't see that where possible things neeed to be kept at encyclopedia standard. As tiring as it is, I will continue to persevere. Regards. Thebladesofchaos (talk) 03:18, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was trying to be civil to you. The comment Again, I am not interested isn't really necessary or expected of administrators. I've dealt with other admin folk on Wikipedia who have been good enough to discuss the issues and not throw up brick walls. Perhaps I should contact one of them to help mediate. Thebladesofchaos (talk) 03:40, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I think you missed the point. I'm not talking about edit warring. I was referring to your own rather blunt commentary (recent proof in the Edit Summaries - again: stop edit warring and complaints completely immaterial. Both are very brusque and miss the fact that I was making an observation). On editing in general, something that also needs to be addressed are scenarios whereby somewhat inexperienced editors stick to their guns, even though there has been compromise and repeated attempts to explain the flaws in their logic. It has to go through Request for Comment etc etc and creates more work before anything can get done. But, no matter. I will discuss where possible and if there are additional issues contact another editor I know who is experienced, affable and above all patient. Thebladesofchaos (talk) 04:19, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Disappointed

Hi Rjanag, I am extremely disappointed by by your edit here. I hoped that an admin with your experience is able to exercisesome common sense. Of course the articles that are displaying at the main page should not be tagged. I said it was unwritten policy, but I actually found something Please see here. It states: "The article is likely to be rejected for unresolved edit warring or having dispute tags" So if the hook that have tags are rejected, of course the articles that are already at the Main page should not be tagged. HJ Mitchell understands it Do you?

Besides you acted without knowing prior history. The article was nominated on deletion and kept. It was never tagged before it already been put to the main page.

Poor, poor wikipedia that has administrators as you are. Please have a nice day.--Mbz1 (talk) 22:46, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]