User talk:Vanbasten 23

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Units for Dique Juan Carlos I Lighthouse (Q43102662)

The data for Dique Juan Carlos I Lighthouse (Q43102662) that you've added are missing units, e.g. for lighthouse range (P2929). Could you please add correct units? Thanks. Laboramus (talk) 02:16, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Enseñar

¿Me enseñas a hacer este tipo de ediciones diff? Gracias Triplecaña (talk) 09:06, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Irving Place Theatre

You added File:Village East former Yiddish Arts Theatre.jpg as an image for Irving Place Theatre (Q6139943). Do you have a basis for that? I think it's wrong. Commons:Category:Irving Place Theatre states that the theater was demolished in 1984, and the picture you added is not in that category and doesn't particularly look like the images in that category. (Please reply here, and ping me if possible.) - Jmabel (talk) 17:28, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jmabel. I put the photo there because in the Spanish Wikipedia it's inside the infobox, then i supposed that the photo was there to show the same that in Wikidata. Sorry if i'm wrong. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 17:40, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Sounds like an error in the Spanish Wikipedia, which you might want to address. I'll remove the image. Commons:Category:Irving Place Theatre has three pictures of the correct building that you could use in es-wiki. - Jmabel (talk) 17:50, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Jmabel, i changed in the Spanish Wikipedia. Take care. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 18:53, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Translate to Asturian

Biografías

• Añadir etiquetas de personas que no tengan artículo en Wikipedia copiando el nombre de Wikipedia en inglés.

Ciencia

• chemical compound to compuestu químicu
• scientific article to artículu científicu

Cultura

• comic book series to serie de cómics

Ficción

• personaje de Harry Potter to personaxe del universu narrativu de Harry Potter
• personaje del universo Harry Potter to personaxe del universu narrativu de Harry Potter
• character in Star Wars to personaxe del universu narrativu de Star Wars
• personaje de Marvel Comics to personaxe de Marvel Comics
• video game franchise to franquicia de videoxuegos
• personaje de ficción to personaxe de ficción

Generales

• family name to apellíu
• given name to nome
• male given name to nome masculín
• female given name to nome femenín

Géneros y especies

• genus of plants to xéneru de plantes
• genus of mammals to xéneru de mamíferos
• genus of arachnids to xéneru d'arácnidos
• genus of chordates to xéneru de cordaos
• genus of bird to xéneru d'aves
• genus of reptiles to xéneru de reptiles
• genus of Amphibia to xéneru d'anfibios
• genus of fishes to xéneru de pexes
• genus of insects to xéneru d'inseutos
• genus of hymenoptera to xéneru d'himenópteros
• genus of molluscs to xéneru de moluscos
• genus of fungi to xéneru de fungos
• species of insect to especie d'inseutu
• species of arachnid to especie d'arácnidu
• species of insect to especie d'inseutu
• species of amphibian to especie d'anfibiu
• species of plant to especie de planta
• species of bird to especie d'ave
• species of chordates to especie de cordáu
• species of reptile to especie de reptil
• species of fish to xéneru de pexe
• species of virus to especie de virus
• species of mollusc to especie de moluscu
• species of plants to especie de planta
• species of fungi to especie de fungu
• insecto coleoptera de la familia Chrysomelidae to inseutu coleoptera de la familia Chrysomelidae (primero este)
• tribe of insects to tribu d'inseutos (después este)
• order of insects to orde d'inseutos

Geografía

• river to ríu
• human settlement to asentamientu humanu

Población

• village in China to pueblu de China

Profesiones

• (Listado ya traducido)
• No traduce jugadores de hockey, ni de rugby
• No traduce británico, ni soviético. Translate British to británicu/a y Soviet to soviéticu/a (si se puede detecta si es hombre o mujer uno u otro)
• Tampoco traduce cuando hay más de una profesión (Por ejemplo: director and producer)
• American judge to xuez/a norteamericanu/a
• Hong Kong windsurfer
• British ornithologist

Proyectos Wikimedia

• Wikipedia disambiguation page to páxina de dixebra de Wikipedia
• Wikimedia category to categoría de Wikimedia
• Wikinews article to artículu de Wikinoticies
• Wikimedia disambiguation page to páxina de dixebra de Wikimedia
• Wikimedia template to plantía de Wikimedia

--Vsuarezp (talk) 15:12, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Please don't empty out items

Hi Vanbasten 23, I noticed you emptied out several items (for example Q57907253, Q57782258, Q57832367 & Q57893201). You're not supposed to do that. Why did you do that?

• Are these items duplicates of other items? Merge them with the other item, see Help:Merge
• Are these items invalid and should be deleted? You can nominate items for deletion at Wikidata:Properties for deletion Wikidata:Requests for deletions.

Multichill (talk) 15:21, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Buenas Multichill. Estoy acostumbrado a que primero se pregunte y después cuando se llegue a un acuerdo se restauren las ediciones, no que ocurra al revés, que primero se borren mis ediciones y después se pregunte. De cualquier manera, soy profesor universitario y realicé un proyecto educativo en mi universidad para mejorar contenidos en la Wikipedia, y este año también en Wikidata. Los alumnos debían crear 2 elementos cada uno, pero en varios casos concretos entendieron mal las indicaciones y no crearon un artículo o un libro de una temática escogida previamente, por lo que tuve que pasar por todos los elementos creados borrando aquellos que eran manuales, artículos periodísticos, o elementos sin sentido o que no eran rastreables. Los casos que has revertido son estos y ya pedí su borrado. Un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 16:21, 8 December 2018 (UTC) PD: Translation: Hi Multichill. I usually ask and after an agreement we revert the wrong editions, not that it happens the other way around, that you ask and revert my edits. Anyway, I'm a university professor and I did an educational project in my university to improve contents in Wikipedia, and this year also in Wikidata. The students had to create two elements each, but in several concrete cases they misunderstood the indications and did not create an article or a book of a previously chosen theme, so I had to go through all the created elements, deleting those that were manuals, journalistic's articles, or elements without meaning or that were not traceable. The cases that you have reversed are these and I have already requested their deletion. Greetings.

Moved from my talk page. Seems to be a reply to this message. Why did you leave a message in Spanish? My user page clearly indicates "Este usuario no tiene ningún conocimiento del español (o lo entiende con mucha dificultad)."

Anyway, now you know the correct way to get things deleted. Please use that in the future, saves everyone time. Happy editing. Multichill (talk) 17:18, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't see your user page, sorry for that. You haven't responded to my question about reversing my editions, I did not find it very respectful, when in addition your reversals were not successful. On the other hand, I asked for the deletion a few days ago, but it could not be done until now because each case had to be studied. Your comment "saves everyone time" does not seem very positive with volunteer users like you, also without knowing the reasons why it is like this... --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 17:38, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Please keep the conversation in one place. Makes it very hard to follow if it's spread out over multiple talk pages.

Emptying out items on Wikidata is considered vandalism and will make these items show up in all sorts of reports. Vandalism gets reverted. I checked before I did any edits if they items where nominated for deletion. I didn't see any incoming links. Where did you nominate these? I didn't see any incoming links from Wikidata:Requests for deletions. Multichill (talk) 17:47, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

You still do not answer There is no point in asking and then reversing. Why do you ask then? Is emptying erroneous items considered vandalism? I thought we called it maintenance. Reverting edits again showed wrong data without allowing the user to respond, what's the name of this actions? --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 18:04, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Why did you delete a real business? Q59472273

Hi Vanbasten 23

You need to explain why you removed a real business from Wikidata Q59472273. This seems to be a poor judgment call on your behalf and is considered vandalism. A disservice to the Wiki community. The information was correct and not a duplicate. If you had a problem with the information that was published, you need to go thru the proper channels and ask for edits. Please use English because you are editing English Content. Please explain yourself or I will have to report you.

Sorry @KatraRios: but you wrote in my discussion, no in the @Multichill: discussion. I didn´t do nothing... sorry, you must write to him to know this explanations. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 13:26, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Sorry Multichill wrong User my mistake.

To Vanbasten 23 Consider this your first warning. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vandalism#Warnings

I will be going to administrators shortly if you do not reverse the deleted page. Thank you.

Please @KatraRios: don´t write me more. I don´t know nothing about your element. I'm Vanbasten_23, and @Multichill: was the user that deleted your element, not me. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 15:30, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

About speed skating

Hello Vanbasten23 / Aosbot.

When i saw this edit. I believe you have got it wrong, since long track speed skating (long track speed skating (Q17165362)) and short track speed skating (short-track speed skating (Q193654)) are both an equal skating sport sport (P641). Short track speed skating is not a underclass of long track speed skating. And in Norway we only use the words for short track speed skating and the oldest sport of them speed skating which is done on long track ovals like 333 1/3 m or 400 m tracks. Therefore I have only used the speed skating (Q192431).

And this edit of your bot makes it double up of the sports discipline competed in (P2416) with this short-track speed skating (Q193654) since it already have this included. Maybe you should check your automated edits a little better to avoid these things.

Best regards Migrant (talk) 21:00, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

@Migrant: For me, long track speed skating (Q17165362) is a subclass of speed skating (Q192431) like heptathlon (Q243264) is a subclass of athletics (Q542), isn´t for you? Thanks. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 21:09, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

But in both the IOC-website and the ISU-website there is nothing called long track speed skating there is only speed skating and short track. So why should wikidata do it any different ? Best regards Migrant (talk) 22:05, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

@Migrant: Then, why the long track speed skating (Q17165362) exist? And thanks. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 19:16, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Another double-up edit

And this edit of your bot makes it double up of the sports discipline competed in (P2416) with this short-track speed skating (Q193654) since it already have this included. Maybe you should check your automated edits a little better to avoid these things.

Best regards Migrant (talk) 20:42, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

@Migrant: I wrote you here on precisely to solve these problems. If you do not answer me, I can hardly solve it. Greetings. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 21:24, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Well, if the sports discipline competed in (P2416) already includes short-track speed skating (Q193654) do not add another one in your bot-actions ! Is that so hard to do ? Migrant (talk) 22:02, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

@Migrant: Ohhh no. I didn´t understand the message the first time. I thought that the problem was about the existence of the item and not about the fact that the same data was created twice. No, I should not do it. Thanks and I'm sorry about the confusion. Greetings. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 22:11, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Well it was about both things, but one correction at the time... At the ISU-website, there it is this page that tells something about the types of sports they organize and the use long track in parentheses for singleing out the long track speed skating (Q17165362)-part of it. Unfortunately the linked document don't have wanted links further on. Migrant (talk) 22:53, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

I see that you removed the one i linked above, but what about the others : person 1 = Atsuko Takata (Q58689026), person 2 = Sachi Ozawa (Q57078455), person 3 = Yuichi Akasaka (Q1497590), person 4 = Tatsuyoshi Ishihara (Q7688377), person 5 = Toshinobu Kawai (Q7827744) ?

So, if the sports discipline competed in (P2416) already includes short-track speed skating (Q193654), please, do not add another one in your bot-actions ! Hopefully there can be an if- line in your bot-script that can avoid these in the future ? Best regards Migrant (talk) 13:40, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes, i´m working on it. Thanks. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 13:58, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Good, great. Migrant (talk) 15:20, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Height problems

Hi,
Be carefull with the units of the imported height of eswiki ([1], [2], [3]).
Please revise this HarvestTemplate batch. Simon Villeneuve (talk) 20:23, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

@Simon Villeneuve: I'm very sorry for the inconvenience. There were 5 or 6 bad biographies and a few paintings. It's solved, thank you very much. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 21:08, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Yo man,
Again and again. You'll be blocked if you continue like this... Simon Villeneuve (talk) 20:45, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

That message wasn't friendly at all... I had to introduce 100 heights and the application has failed in 10, ok, I assume the errors and modify them. Understand that it is the problem of using tools to automate the collection of information. If the article has information from a vandal, I also collect it. At other times, the template from which I collect the data indicates one thing (centimeters, for example), and users put another (meters). I'm just trying to contribute. @Simon Villeneuve: --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 21:21, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi again,
I just try to warn you. Wikidatians accept errors (I'm the first to benefit that), but they don't accept that once they have pointed it, you do it again as if they haven't told you anything.
I understand that you try to contribute, but it is not an excuse. If you can't contribute correctly with HarvestTemplate, use another tool.
Here's a query you can use to revise your height contributions :

SELECT DISTINCT ?taille ?item
WHERE
{?item wdt:P31 wd:Q5 ;
       p:P2048/psn:P2048/wikibase:quantityAmount ?taille .
 FILTER (?taille > 3)
 MINUS {?item wdt:P31 wd:Q190 .} #pas un-e dieu|déesse
 }
ORDER BY (?taille)

Try it!

Simon Villeneuve (talk) 23:57, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

@Simon Villeneuve: To warn by alluding to a blockage for two cases in which the height was wrong? I think the comment is disproportionate, there is no excuse. I use editgroups to see my changes, thank you. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 07:44, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

I've been blocked for a misuse of HarvestTemplate similar to yours. So you can still cry that I've not been kind enough with you or try to (understand|accept) my advice. Simon Villeneuve (talk) 12:48, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

@Simon Villeneuve: The beginning of the message was really kind, but why do you spoil it by saying "cry"? You lost your manners in the second half. I'll just tell you if you want to be more careful, because the people lose energy with this kind of things. Anyway, hace a nice day and thanks for your advice (I understand and i accept it), is very useful. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 14:47, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

start time (P580)

Buenas. He visto que has estado importando con HarvestTemplates en universidades la propiedad start time (P580) para referirte a la fecha de fundación, pero en la mayoría de los casos genera un conflicto de restricciones por la presencia de la propiedad inception (P571), que creo que es la adecuada para el dato (aquí). ¿Puedes echarle un ojo? Un saludo. Mr.Ajedrez (talk) 10:15, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Ahhhhh, que rabia. Tenía puesta la fecha de inicio por el anterior elemento y no me di cuenta. Ya siento los inconvenientes. Es lo malo de un fallo en un bot o en herramientas de estas, que el error es grande. Un saludo y a ver si nos vemos pronto, espero que estés muy bien. ;) @Mr.Ajedrez: --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 11:00, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

has use (P366)

Hello, this propery is for many values wrong. E.g. for all types of software: https://w.wiki/Bdf. Please help me to change P366 to P31 for all these items. --Infovarius (talk) 13:16, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello, @Infovarius:. I have not problem to change, but i don´t understand why, because all the cases have a P31 and the use is also that, right? Thanks --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 13:55, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Hm, it's hard to explain... I would say P366=X is used when X is some activity, not a class of software. --Infovarius (talk) 14:04, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

JFYI: I am using PetScan like this for changing. --Infovarius (talk) 14:38, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

As for videogames, genre (P136)=Xgenre should be used instead of P366=Xgenre. See the list. --Infovarius (talk) 14:15, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

@Infovarius: I have a similar problem with athletes. Many of them have in sport "400 meters", when the sport is athletics and 400 meters is the specialty. Thanks. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 18:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

@Infovarius: I've seen your editions, and I've gone one by one for all uses, but you've already changed them, haven't you? Thank you very much, very kind. And I'm sorry for the inconvenience. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 18:48, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Not yet: https://w.wiki/Bdf + https://w.wiki/BiW ... Where did you get this data from? --Infovarius (talk) 20:40, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

@Infovarius: Ah, okay. I don't know why 1 hour ago the queries weren't returning these values to me, and I saw your edits and it looked like it was because you had completed it. I got the data from the English edition, because I thought that all the software was quite incomplete in terms of information. Here's an example of where the list came from. Thanks. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 20:52, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Have you used field "type" in infobox? How did you decide to use P366 for it? Or categories? --Infovarius (talk) 21:12, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

First of all, I check in in many articles the value of the infobox and compare it with wikidata in the known articles (Chrome, IE...) to see where they have put the value, and in this case I used genre, because in all the cases I saw it appeared in use. Obviously, there were data that took information from lists :( --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 21:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

P577 vs P580 for tv series

As I understand from this you seems to be favouring to use start time (P580) instead of publication date (P577) for instance of (P31)television series (Q5398426). Did I get it right? Ghuron (talk) 08:12, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Ghuron: I don't really know what's better, but we should know if in movies and series is preferred one in particular, to pass all those that are wrong to leave them correctly (I can do it with my bot). The main problem I have seen is that if there is a specific date (30 Apr 1975) is better than putting 1970s, because 1970s does not provide much information. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 08:18, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

My script updates information only if corresponding statement does not exist, or exist but with worse precision. The problem is that it checks only one property. Right now it is P577, but I can change it to P580. It would be nice to agree on something here. @MovieFex: I know that you are primary interested in movies, not tv series, but may be you can point to whom we can discuss this? Ghuron (talk) 09:58, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

No problem, with this query we could see the number of films with start time (P580). Then, i can change all the films and series with start time (P580) and put them to publication date (P577). Thanks. @Ghuron: --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 10:25, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

@Ghuron: The revert of Vanbasten 23 was right. Your idea with start time (P580) is correct for series and end time (P582). I have seen you did a lot of this changes already since march this year. May be next time you ask before you going to play with your bot, don't you?  ;) -- MovieFex (talk) 10:28, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

@Vanbasten 23: Please don't do this. Everbody makes script and bot tests here. This is horrible. -- MovieFex (talk) 10:30, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

See Wikidata:WikiProject_Movies/Properties#Series. Why making everthing easy when it is possible to make it complicated? -- MovieFex (talk) 10:36, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

That is exactly what I was looking for, thanks Ghuron (talk) 11:04, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks @MovieFex: I was trying to say that if there's a wrong property it could be done with a bot. As long as it's clear it's wrong. Then, start time (P580) is wrong in movies and publication date (P577) is wrong in series. Or would you rather not change this either? --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 16:23, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Descriptions

Thanks for the descriptions added by your bot. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 09:45, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. I think I've gotten used to the discussion pages being places for discussion and to show problems, and now, I already thought there was a problem. When I saw that it was just that, it surprised me. Thank you for the message. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 09:50, 19 January 2020 (UTC) @Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick: --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 09:50, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Strange item bout French/Spanish libraries

Hi,

I'm guessing something went wrong with the creation of the description of these items: Q85726655, Q85726656, Q85726661, Q85726654.

It says « library in Spain » (same for languages other than English) but obviously they are in France. Could you take a look and if I'm right, could you correct please? (caveat: I only spot these four, there is maybe other items I didn't found).

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 12:40, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

@VIGNERON: Yes, and sorry, the Spanish Goverment pay this libraries, but obviosly they are not in Spain. Thank you very much, tonight I will check all of them. Thanks and sorry. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 16:28, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Libraries in Spain

Hi, May I know how do you get bulk data to add into WD.Kindly help me, so that I can work for my country. --Akbarali (talk) 08:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

@Akbarali: So, I search on free data websites in Spain. There are many things, but it´s difficult to find something interesting... now with the libraries the file it´s cool ;) Greetings. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 08:36, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Q72405116

Hi, it seems you have overwritten a library in Portugal, with a library of the same name in Spain. I thought you may want to recover that information for another item, so just letting you know. GoEThe (talk) 15:30, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes, thank you very much @GoEThe: --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 09:12, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for participating in the FindingGLAMs Challenge!

	Thank you for participating in the FindingGLAMs Challenge!
	With your hard work, you took the 2nd place. Congratulations! By improving information about GLAM institutions on Wikidata, you made the Wikimedia projects better for everyone! Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 14:45, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

NZ

Please note that when you add description for New Zealanders, "New Zealander artistic gymnast" is gramatically wrong and should be "New Zealand artistic gymnast" instead. Schwede66 (talk) 18:18, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Wrong descriptions

wrt special:diff/1119519159, this person is completely unrelated to Taiwan. I suppose your bot must have added many more such descriptions to persons of Republic of China. Please undo them and do not repeat the mistakes in future.--RZuo (talk) 17:08, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

RE:Ediciones

Gracias, a partir de ahora así lo haré, sé como va. Disculpas y gracias por el aviso!

adding bot statement again after manually removement

Hi, please do not add a bot statement again, if it was manually removed. Wrong item added by bot: [4] Manually removed: [5] Added again by bot: [6] Thanks —CENNOXX (talk) 13:47, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@CennoxX: For a strange reason if his profession was a showrunner he was putting sports athletics. Thank you very much for commenting on it, I delete it and modify all the problems that it may have caused. Thank you and sorry. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 21:11, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Ah, interesting: showrunner > runner > sports athletics. Okay, thanks and have a good day.–CENNOXX (talk) 09:26, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Hockey patines

Como veas--Cruzate1492 (talk) 19:04, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Rudolf Dzipanow (Q9323770)

Hi,

Rudolf Dzipanow (Q9323770) is not a speed skater but a general. Kpjas (talk) 14:45, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks @Kpjas: He really was a skater, but he is better known for his military career. My bot puts the description depending on the occupation, and in occupation he only had "skater". If a skater and a general appeared on Wikipedia, the bot would not have put anything in doubt. I have already changed it, thanks. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 15:01, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

OK. WP-PL mentions his 2nd place in speed skating juniors competition champtionships. But it was 1939 the WW II broke out and his sports career was lost. Kpjas (talk) 15:32, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Creating new items for items that already exist

Manuel García Rubio (Q102353669) is the same as Manuel García Rubio (Q42403778). Why do you create endless lists of new items, for items that already exist? And who is gonna merge them together? Edoderoo (talk) 17:24, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

@Edoderoo: First of all, a greeting, please do not miss the education. Then, I received your message, I made a query, but maybe was a problem, but this is no a big problem, obviously I will do it. Greetings and thanks for your time. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 21:52, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

@Edoderoo: I did it, and in the meantime I merged a few others that I saw along the way. Greetings. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 22:53, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Small request for Italian descriptions

Hi, thanks for your work on descriptions :) I have a small favour to ask you: can you use "olandese", instead of "neerlandese", in Italian descriptions for Dutch people? It's valid for both males and females, so it's just a small tweak. Let me know. :) --Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 21:08, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Sannita: I have not problem to change anything. But what you are asking me to do would be a mistake. Holland is not a country, it is a region of the Netherlands, which is usually misused. Greetings. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 21:40, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Ehm, no. Actually "neerlandese" is not used in current language. We know the difference between Holland and the Netherlands, but the common adjective in Italian for "Dutch" is "olandese". We just don't say or use "neerlandese". --Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 00:48, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Sannita: Before I put it in Italian I ask Italians to correct me if I am wrong, and we had a conversation about it and they recommended that I put it as it is because it was more correct. In Spanish it's the same, everybody uses "holandés", but it's still just as wrong even though everybody uses it. I think that's what we have to do, that people get used to putting on what they should put on. If I were from Heerenveen and they called me "holandés", I wouldn't like it at all. Greetings. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 12:24, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

I'm also Italian, and I know it is not 100% correct to say "olandese", but still it is the word everybody commonly uses for Dutch in Italian. Even Dutch (Q7411) has "lingua olandese" as preferred title, because this is the term commonly used. It is like using "Olympiad" as a synonym for "Olympic games". If you wish, you can ask here or here about it, to double check on what I'm saying. --Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 12:31, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

@Sannita: Yes, please. It will be better to know other opinions. Thank you very much. Greetings. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 12:32, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

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Notified participants of WikiProject Italy See above and please have your say about my request to change "neerlandese" to "olandese". Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 21:16, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes, is correct what Sannita say. It's strange but in italian we use "olandese" instead "neerlandese". Also Treccani Vocabulary (Q4015908) say "impropriamente ma correntemente l’aggettivo è esteso, in luogo di neerlandese, all’intero territorio dello stato" translate: "incorrectly but currently the adjective is extended, instead of Dutch, to the entire territory of the state". See at Treccani site --ValterVB (talk) 21:38, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes the right term is “olandese”. You can see en:wikt:olandese or it:wikt:dutch or [google translate]-Pierpao (talk) 21:55, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

In Spanish it is the same. All the media report "Holland" as if it were a country. But it is incorrect. The fact that it is used regularly does not mean that it is correct, and an encyclopaedia (or knowledge base) should not be made a habit of, but should be correct. @Camelia.boban: can you say something about this? We had talked about this before. Thanks. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 22:00, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

In Italian "olandese" is the most common term used in the spoken language. In academic language are used "neerlandese" derivated from French and "nederlandese" derivated from Dutch but it is mostly applied for the language and it is used to define Flemish and Hollandish language together. The "error" is so common that even in Papiamento, official language of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, The Netherlands are called Hulanda.--НУРшЯGIO^{(beware of the moose)} 22:13, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

We don't use Paesi Bassi commonly because it means crotch, and olandese it's easier to say than paesebassese :-D --Sabas88 (talk) 08:05, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@Sannita: I keep thinking of changing the bot to "olandese" but the country itself insists that they should stop calling them with the wrong name. Two years ago they campaigned for all countries to stop calling them Holland, as was being done with the idea that in the future it would be done correctly, so I see it as inappropriate to use "olandese" because it describes only a portion of the country. Best regards.

MisterSynergy Thierry Caro Vanbasten_23 Malore Сидик из ПТУ Mathieu Kappler Lee Vilenski Erokhin Dandilero Blackcat Looniverse

Notified participants of WikiProject Sports --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 08:42, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Wrong edit from your bot

Hi, please double ckeck ehat your bot is doing because it added wrong information to this element. Playing videogames doesn't imply that one plays sport videogames. --★ → Airon 90 11:04, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

You thanked me twice, for this comment and for the aforementioned rollback, but your bot is doing the same wrong edit. Last advice. --★ → Airon 90 14:20, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I'm on it. Sorry, I forgot to ping you. If you can, answer here so I can change all the data automatically. Thank you. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 14:29, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

What a day! @Airon90: --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 14:30, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

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Q13108218 vs. Q43450

Why does your bot change the statement sport (P641)gymnastics (Q13108218) to the statement sport (P641)gymnastics (Q43450)? The data object Emma Malewski (Q98059688) can be used as an example. ([7]) --Gymnicus (talk) 20:27, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Gymnicus: how are you? For me sport (P641)gymnastics (Q13108218) is not a sport, it´s a old name to various sports. sport (P641)gymnastics (Q43450) is the actual sport. Do you disagree? Thanks. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 20:52, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

I would disagree, yes. But maybe there is in the data object gymnastics (Q43450) also a discrepancy between the linked German Wikipedia articles and the linked Wikipedia articles of the other language versions. You may see that in the data object Category:Gymnastics (Q7145181). The English category Category:Gymnastics refers to the data object gymnastics (Q43450). Meanwhile, the German category Kategorie:Turnen actually refers to the data object gymnastics (Q13108218) even if it is not currently built into the data object Category:Gymnastics (Q7145181). What is perhaps interesting to mention in relation to this. If you look at the German-language Wikipedia, then the data object gymnastics (Q43450) is a subclass of the data object gymnastics (Q13108218). Here in Wikidata it is exactly the other way around. --Gymnicus (talk) 21:21, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Gymnicus: I read the beginning of the sport (P641)gymnastics (Q13108218) in the German Wikipedia and it says "Ursprünglich eine Sammelbezeichnung für sämtliche Arten körperlicher Ertüchtigung, einschließlich etwa des Schwimmens und des Wanderns". Then, it´s no the actual sport. Thanks. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 21:34, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

I would say that I will bring up the topic again in the German-speaking forum and that we will consider a solution there. I would get in touch here again when we have agreed on a course of action. Is that okay with you for now? --Gymnicus (talk) 21:38, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Gymnicus: perfect, and thank you very mucho for your help. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 21:41, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

After the administrator MisterSynergy confirmed my point of view, I started reworking. In doing so, I merged the data objects Q43450 and Q13108218. In addition, the articles Gymnastik and Springgymnastik have each received a new data objekt with gym (Q107031718) or Q107031918. From this it actually follows that your bot no longer has to do the makeovers. Can your bot actually correct the statements that are still linked to the forwarding or is another bot doing that? --Gymnicus (talk) 16:45, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Gymnicus: perfect then. Yes, it is another bot. I have already deleted the option in my bot. Thank you very much. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 17:03, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Q98069733

Could you or your bot set the ast description for Merel Bormans (Q98069733)? I had to remove the old one, because it was incorrect. When your bot ran the first time there was a wrong value for country of citizenship (P27). This has been corrected later by a different user, but the descriptions were never corrected. I managed to fix most of them based on Google translate, but they don't support ast. Mbch331 (talk) 14:37, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Bot-edits in referee-profiles

Hello Vanbasten 23/Aosbot. Your botedits on Hanjo Heideman and Bert Timmerman makes it look like the persons have had an active career as an speed skater, which is not true, they have only been referees. And that is just long track speed skating and not short track speed skating, so therefore I would actually revert your botedits, but I'm asking for your motivation of your botedits first. Best regards Migrant (talk) 18:43, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Hasan Kaimija (Q13082029)

Hello, I'm Eihel. I have reverted one of your recent contributions to the page Q13082029, as it changed the description of an item to the name of a language. The policy regarding descriptions can be found here. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks!  Eihel (talk) 07:53, 14 September 2021 (UTC) --Eihel (talk) 07:53, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Aosbot must no longer write in French if you do not understand French (several false descriptions). And your page created on frWP proves that you do not understand French. Cordially. —Eihel (talk) 07:57, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

@Eihel: You have written to me four times, one was enough. My talk page is automated so that I put the same in all discussions, it doesn't prove anything. The translation has been done by a French person, not by me, the bot only automates that. If you think it is not correct I will change it and there is no more. Thanks for the comment. All the best. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 09:18, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Un favor

Buenas, Vanbasten 23, ¿cómo va?. Vengo a —si te sobra algo de tiempo— pedirte una ayuda, para añadir el identificador de Google Knowledge Graph, en Quemil Yambay (Q31825743). Es que aún me cuesta comprender como añadir algunos identificadores, y pues vi que eres muy activo también aquí, al igual que en es.wiki, y me imaginaba que comprenderías todo sobre esta cuestión, es por ello que llego a ti. Espero no sea molestia, y por supuesto, no es de obligación cumplirla.

Un saludo cordial, --88^kB/s 21:42, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Buenas @88 csq: estoy de viaje un tiempo largo y no tengo apenas tiempo de entrar por aquí, ya lo siento. Sé que hay un bot que se dedica a añadir los enlaces en las biografías, pero no sé donde se encuentra el enlace para ponerlo, ya lo siento, un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 20:12, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Descripciones incorrectas en asturiano: gentilicio incorrecto

Hola @Vanbasten 23:. Acabo de descubrir varias ediciones incorrectas hechas con Aosbot como por ejemplo ésta. El genticilio "marroquí" en asturiano es marroquín (masculino) o marroquina (femenino). Ya corregí la mayoría de ediciones pero procura cambiarlo también en el código del bot para evitar esto de nuevo en el futuro. YoaR (talk) 12:07, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Perfecto @YoaR: gracias. Un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 19:47, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Descripciones incorrectas en francés: acuerdo de género

Buen dia Vanbasten 23,

Ese tipo de descripcion es incorrecto en francés porque "personnalité" es feminino (incluyendo cuando se aplica a un hombre) y "chinois" es masculino.

¿Puedes hacer que tu bot corrige todas sus descripciones de forma "personnalité politique + adjectivo"? Hay dos posibilidades para un hombre:

• Personnalité politique + adj. feminino
• Homme politique + adj. masculino

Gracias, --GrandEscogriffe (talk) 18:32, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

@GrandEscogriffe: muchas gracias, lo tomaré en cuenta, un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 18:43, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Notability

Thank you for contributing to Wikidata. I see that you recently created an item Q110681727 that does not clearly indicate its notability. The Wikidata project only accepts items that meet its notability criteria, and your item is therefore likely to be deleted soon. In brief, items must have an associated Wikipedia article, must be needed for statements on another notable item, or must have both identifiers and serious sources. For the last case, a good indication of notability would be multiple articles about the subject in independent publications like newspapers or magazines. You can add such sources as references to specific claims using reference URL (P854), or as top-level claims using described at URL (P973). Also, this may not apply in this specific case, but you should know that we discourage editors from contributing on topics with which they have a strong personal connection, as this may present a conflict of interest. For a longer version, you might find it useful to read the essay "How to create an item on Wikidata so that it won't get deleted".  Bovlb (talk) 16:41, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Bovlb: Today I have been uploading Spanish architects and sculptors, because I will upload all the sculptures from Madrid. In the archive I don't have the details of these, so I have to add them one by one, a task I have been carrying out all afternoon. Best regards. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 16:55, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

OK. Good luck with that. I just wanted to warn you that it's not a good idea to leave items in a state that doesn't establish notability for too long. Cheers, Bovlb (talk) 16:57, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Bovlb: yes, of course, for that i am running with that ;) Thanks. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 16:59, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Eduardo Medina Mora (Q585491) et al.

Removing statements marked with an deprecated rank without removing the reason for determining such a rank is risky. In the case of these entries, these are entries in MnM that will sooner or later be transferred to WD again. There are still (e.g. as of 2017) incorrect matches, example: https://mix-n-match.toolforge.org/#/entry/9326983 Matlin (talk) 16:11, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

@Matlin: Correct me if I'm wrong. When you use MnM don't you have to specifically check if it's exactly that element you want to put the value in? If so, why sooner or later is it going to be reintroduced? The person who does it will be misusing the tool. Right? --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 16:37, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

XX529883

Hola:

Ahora no sabría decir si realmente corresponde a winery (Q156362). La cosa es que XX529883 comparte el valor de Library of Congress authority ID (P244) de wine room (Q22995). También está asociado en M'n'M: https://mix-n-match.toolforge.org/#/entry/89053144.

No sé. —Ismael Olea (talk) 07:54, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Buenas @Olea: pues habrá que decir a la BNE que no pongan ese identificador de la Biblioteca del Congreso, pero bodega es un término que puede referirse a una bodega que está a nivel del suelo. Sobre MnM... justo el mensaje de arriba me dice que no retire valores erróneos porque están en MnM... vamos que ahora vamos poniendo en Wikidata valores erróneos y les mantenemos porque una herramienta lo tiene mal puesto, la herramienta es externa, que lo hagan bien ellos, no sé... --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 08:00, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

> Buenas @Olea: pues habrá que decir a la BNE que no pongan ese identificador de la Biblioteca del Congreso,

mailto:info.datosenlazados@bne.es :-)

Si miras en XX529883 verás que hay más referencias a otras autoridades. Tampoco me extrañaría que tengas toda la razón y tengan mal hecha la relación. Yo mismo, sin tener ni idea, me habré encontrado con más de una incongruencia en datos.bne.es (Q50358336), aunque no me he animado a escribirles precisamente por no tener confianza en mi criterio.

> Sobre MnM... justo el mensaje de arriba me dice que no retire valores erróneos porque están en MnM...

En este caso la solución en MnM es fácil, cambiar una equivalencia por la otra. —Ismael Olea (talk) 10:30, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

@Olea: sí, tengo contacto directo con ellos, por eso estoy limpiando el id de la bne, para después decirles los fallos que hay y pasar el bot para introducir todos los que faltan. Poco a poco. Hay cientos de problemas con todas las autoridades, así son las bases de datos ;) Es complicado diferenciar muchas veces con nombres tan parecidos, iniciales, fechas casualmente coincidentes, pocos datos dependiendo del tema y la época, apodos, y mil más. Sobre MnM el problema es que es una herramienta externa, si hubiese 10 más, ¿tendríamos que estar cambiando las equivalencias en todas? Yo no utilizo MnM, por lo tanto... debería responsabilizarse el que creó mal esa equivalencia, entiendo yo... Un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 10:40, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Bueno, lo he cambiado en MnM. Dejar el valor equivocado es riesgo de volver a crear la duda en el futuro. 👍 —Ismael Olea (talk) 10:48, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Edit by Aosbot

Hello. For some reason, Aosbot is adding sport (P641) correspondence chess (Q1128406) to the actress Kim Se-in (Q108936807) Christian140 (talk) 13:00, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Yes, @Christian140: Aosbot adding sport after to look into the occupation (P106). If the occupation (P106) is correspondence chess player (Q30176225) then it put that sport. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 13:08, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm so blind, when I created the item, I accidentally added correspondence chess player (Q30176225) because I am editing in German mostly. I wanted to add "Fernsehschauspieler" which looks quite similar to "Fernschachspieler". So, even until your reply, I didn't realize my mistake. --Christian140 (talk) 14:01, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Deletion of proven statement by Aosbot

Your Aosbot is currently also deleting the activity athlete (Q2066131) from data object. If the statements are unsupported I don't mind, but in the case of Leonie Knaus (Q108524992) your boat also deleted a referenced statement. I consider such processing by a bot to be wrong. Therefore, I ask that you instruct your bot to only delete the statement if the statement is not proven. --Gymnicus (talk) 19:43, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Gymnicus: Thanks for your messages. Aosbot deletes that property when it finds a more specific sports profession. In this case, if he finds a volleyball player (Q15117302), then it deletes because it is already understood that he was a volleyball player, right? --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 20:02, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

As I said: If the statement is not documented with references, I can understand the deletion. However, if the statement is backed up with references, then the statements should be retained. --Gymnicus (talk) 20:19, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Deleting of VIAF ID

Hello Vanbasten 23, why did you delete the VIAF ID here? --Kolja21 (talk) 12:42, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Buenas @Kolja21: estoy revisando los id de la BNE porque encuentro muchos duplicados y borro los que no son correctos. En este caso también vi este VIAF que tampoco era correcto y lo borré. Un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 09:56, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Gracias por tu respuesta, but BNE XX887517 is still part of the item: Q115042559#P950. You have only deleted the conflated VIAF 9451174. --Kolja21 (talk) 01:03, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Buenas @Kolja21: vuelvo a ponerlo, pero creo que hay una mezcla de autores en las obras que se indican en el id de VIAF. Un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 20:45, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

fix rather than just remove data

Thanks for your revert https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q20968893&oldid=prev&diff=1762198364&diffmode=source !

• But you can contribute a lot more if you fix statements rather than just removing them.
• That link was part of importing 1.2M Worldcat IDs from VIAF: of course I could not check every one of them
• I got maybe 200 reverts that exposed problems with conflation in VIAF or WD: so I think my import was very useful for exposing and fixing problems by the WD community (as well as collecting a list of errors for VIAF to fix)

Here's what I did:

• Fixed the name of Moncada Municipal Archeological Museum (Q20968893) to say "archaeological"
• Added different from (P1889) Montcada Municipal Museum (Q3816321)
• Added two VIAF IDs to Montcada Municipal Museum (Q3816321), one of them deprecated with reason "redirect"

I am still not sure that everything is ok because it seems there's a conflation on the side of VIAF. But it's better than before... Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 13:29, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Perfect @Vladimir Alexiev: i'm doing the same with BNE id. I am reviewing the duplicates with the BNE and then I will add the missing ones. Regards, and thanks for your work. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 20:48, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Concurso "Latinoamérica en Wikidata"

Hola Vanbasten 23,
Queríamos agradecerte por participar del concurso Latinoamérica en Wikidata 2022. Entre todos los aportes mejoraron más de 14 mil ítems en Wikidata sobre América Latina.
También queríamos felicitarte: ¡ganaste el primer premio del concurso! Pronto nos pondremos en contacto con vos para organizar la entrega del premio.
Saludos,
Vic Sfriso (WMAR) (talk)

¡Felicitaciones! Concurso Latinoamérica en Wikidata 2022

Paula (WDU) (talk) 20:47, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Please stop removing coordinates

Please don't remove coordinates from items, where they are in use to show where the building for the ayuntamiento is, e.g., on Commons. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 12:49, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Mike Peel: In your message you don't explain the reason. Can you explain to me the reason why a city council has a coordinate? The coordinates are held by the town halls, not by the town councils. There are no many of them, but those that do exist are incorrectly set. All the best. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 12:58, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Un ayuntamiento es una institución, no tiene lugar físico

@Vanbasten 23:, ese enunciado que aplicas para revertir en Q64698740 es una apreciación que considero muy tuya. Como, creo, ya te dicen, ayuntamiento es la sede, el edificio, en que esa institución tienen su domicilio, fiscal y de otro tpo, como servicios y demás. Pero no importa. Así se queda, con "sede" en el BOE o documento correspondiente.--Galopax (talk) 15:43, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

EN: @Vanbasten 23:: "A city council is an institution, it has no physical location", statement that you apply to revert to Q64698740 is an appreciation that I consider very personal. As, I think, you have already been told, town hall is the seat, the building, in which that institution has its domicile, fiscal and otherwise, such as services and so on. But it doesn't matter. That's how it stays, with "sede" in the BOE or corresponding document.

Buenas @Galopax: espero que estés muy bien, un saludo. Viendo la traducción en inglés, me parece que suena bien, pero en español es un poco raro que digas "es una apreciación que considero muy tuya"... Yo entiendo que el ayuntamiento tiene que estar en una sede concreta, pero es que el propio ayuntamiento es algo más grande que un sitio. En un pueblo no se nota tanto, pero en ciudades puedes encontrar que el ayuntamiento tiene en realidad más de un lugar para sus oficinas. El ayuntamiento es una institución y la casa consistorial es el lugar donde se ubica, pero no es que sea "muy mío". He deshecho vuestras ediciones para que si tenéis algo que decir lo hagáis y no quería borrarlo a "escondidas", porque si borro directamente seguro que ni os enteráis. El caso es que haciendo una consulta, de 2812 ayuntamientos en España, solo había 30-40 con coordenadas y los he borrado todos para tener uniformidad. La idea es crear todos los ayuntamientos y todas las casas consistoriales. Si tienes algún comentario que hacer, adelante, este es el momento, pero no me digas que es una apreciación muy mía. Gracias --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 18:04, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Migration

Hi! In order to perform this merge I had to remove the sitelink to es:Migración (ecología), which in fact is perfectly mergeable with es:Migración (both regard migration in general). Could you have a look and possibly merge the first into the second? Thanks! --Epìdosis 09:47, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

@Epìdosis:  Done --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 10:14, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Invitation to participate in the WQT UI requirements elicitation online workshop

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Re:

Ya, pues qué quieres que te diga, no me gusta mucho encontrarme que alguien por su cuenta y riesgo te estás poniendo a cambiar arbitrariamente una cosa sin consenso, y sin motivos que están muy claros. Sin tener en cuenta la opinión de otros, por cierto. CFA1877 (talk) 11:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

"Hablamos" jajaja. Como los políticos, hablando las cosas un día en un reservado y otro día te enteras la tostada. Que yo recuerde a los usuarios que editamos de Andalucía, Extremadura o La Mancha no se nos ha consultado sobre esto, está visto que es algo que otros deciden por nosotros, qué maravilla eh. Pues yo opino que es una cacicada, que no estoy de acuerdo y te digo aún más: respecto a Andalucía te puedo llamar a 3 o 4 usuarios que van a estar revirtiendo esto hasta el fin de los tiempos, con peores maneras que yo, así que no seré yo el único que va a estar en este plan.

Por cierto, el criterio que tienes...has cogido la isla Saltés de Huelva y la has convertido en un antiguo municipio de España, cuando en la vida ha tenido rango municipal. Una barbaridad, dado que eso luego se vuelca a las fichas en wikipedia y se transmite información falsa. Así no se pueden hacer las cosas.

Dicho lo cual, los municipios los instituye y regula la Ley reguladora de las Bases del Régimen Local, la entidad local básica de la organización territorial del Estado. DEL ESTADO, no de las regiones. Que aquí una serie de usuarios hayan creado la figura de municipios como una institución de las comunidades autónomas....por fines políticos....no es argumento para extender esa barbaridad y convertirla en algo institucional. CFA1877 (talk) 11:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Que qué problema conlleva? Que es una cacicada, tan sencillo como eso, aparte de que cambias parámetros que llevan años sin que nadie cuestione. Y no es correcto desde un punto de vista jurídico, ya te lo he explicado. Que en algunas zonas por motivos políticos estén haciendo esta barbaridad no es justificación de extenderla al resto del país. Y ya te he avisado de que si pongo esto en conocimiento de varios usuarios, serán ellos los que vengan a revertirte una y otra vez, así que deja tú de cambiar cosas que nadie ha pedido y sin consenso alguno. No puedes pretender cambiar masivamente estas cosas, por tu cuenta, y que nadie vaya a oponerse. CFA1877 (talk) 12:09, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Respecto a lo de la Isla Saltés, "ya estaba así" no es excusa. No puedes ponerte a hacer cambios masivos sin criterio, sin fijarte bien lo que hay. Teniendo en cuenta el volcado de información que suele producirse de wikidata a wikipedia, es gravísimo que contribuyas a dar información errónea de gratis. CFA1877 (talk) 12:17, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Recent edits on two items

Hello, I saw your edits on Q51129851 and Q63131154 where "ex-member" was changed to "member". Thank you for trying to improve these items, but unfortunately they are in fact ex-members of the second group since 2020. For this reason, I will be changing them back to the previous versions. User350 (talk) 13:11, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

@User350: hello, I hope you are very well, greetings. First of all, it's better to wait for my response, and then with what we decide, undo the changes or not, but don't do it without consulting it first, because if I changed it it will be for a reason. The description asks of you is that you describe why that person is relevant. Thus, about Einstein we put "German scientist" and we do not put "was a German scientist" or "former German scientist" or similar. It is about indicating what made it relevant, regardless of whether it is currently relevant or not. Because if that were the case we would be changing the entire verb tense every time he changes job or when he dies. I hope you understand. All the best. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 13:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

I am very sorry, I thought it was correct to have "ex" because it was that way for a long time. You are right, I should have waited for your explanation first, and I made a mistake here because I am still learning about the normal protocols of the Wikimedia Project. I understand your explanation and I will remember it for future edits. I reverted my own edits back to your original changes. Thank you. User350 (talk) 13:50, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

re: Entidad singular de población

Saludos. Varias cuestiones:

• Si un elemento tiene la Property:P772 código INE de la forma PPMMMCCXX[00] es porque es una es:entidad singular de población. Por la propia definición del código INE.

• El nomenclátor del INE no recoge localidades (llámense así o lugares habitados, poblaciones, poblados, núcleos de población, asentamientos, etc). En la mayoría de las ocasiones pueden coincidir con una entidad singular de población (ESP), pero hay casos en que no. Por ejemplo, si una localidad se extiende por dos o más municipios, para el INE pueden ser una, dos o más ESP. Porque la ESP es una división del municipio por lo que no puede pertenecer a dos municipios a la vez. Ejemplos: es:San Juan de Nieva o es:Mazagón.

• Las localidades tienen una categoría histórica (aldea, lugar, villa, ciudad, etc) que en algunos caso sigue en uso. Por ejemplo, en el Constitución, art. 5, "La capital del Estado es la villa de Madrid.". Hasta el año 1996, el INE publicaba en el nomenclátor la categoría histórica pero dejó de hacerlo (realmente no es un dato ni demográfico ni estadístico). Pero se sigue recogiendo en numerosas publicaciones posteriores (aparte de las innumerables anteriores) como el nomenclátor de Asturias que actualiza sadei todos los años o el Diccionario de Cantabria: Geográfico-histórico-artístico-estadístico y turístico (2006) de Pedro Arce Díez.

LMLM (talk) 08:11, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

El código INE 29041000101 se corresponde al núcleo de población de Casares que es parte de la ESP Casares (cód. INE 29041000100). Esto se puede comprobar fácilmente en el nomenclátor del INE.

El IGN para el Nomenclátor Geográfico de Municipios y Entidades de Población se ha inventado las entidades "Capital de municipio" que no son entidades del nomenclátor del INE y ha cambiado el nombre de los núcleos de población por "Otras entidades" porque sí. No contentos con inventarse un nuevo tipo de entidad han decidido que es un supertipo, superior al resto de entidades: lo que es "capital de municipio" no es otra cosa. Así, por ejemplo, el núcleo de población de Casares no es "Otras entidades" sino "Capital de municipio". Y Roiz no es "Entidad singular" sino "Capital de municipio". Para el Nomenclátor Geográfico de Municipios y Entidades de Población, Roiz no es entidad singular de población.

La asignación de "Capital de municipio" en este Nomenclátor es variable: núcleo, entidad singular o código inventado. Porque han mezclado los datos del nomenclátor del INE con los del Registro de Entidades Locales (REL): han buscado el nombre de la capital del municipio que aparece en el REL en el nomenclátor y le han asignado el código del núcleo, si coincidía el nombres con el del la ESP. En contra del criterio mayoritario, incluso del propio IGN: Toponimia: Normas para el MTN25. Conceptos básicos y terminología: "La clasificación de las capitales de municipio, en función de sus habitantes, se realizará con el último Nomenclátor del INE. Se tomará la población total de la entidad singular (ES en el Nomenclátor) que sea capital de municipio.". Más sitios donde se sigue este criterio aquí y en todos los decretos de toponimia del Principado de Asturias.

En mi opinión, lo mejor sería borrar el código INE 29041000101 y dejar de utilizar el Nomenclátor Geográfico de Municipios y Entidades de Población para estas cosas (para coordenadas y demás, sí). Esto ya le tengo hablado con Olea, sin acuerdo, aquí. LMLM (talk) 19:34, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Muy interesante todo lo que me dices @LMLM: estaba intentando unificarlo y he parado al ver tu primera respuesta para intentar hacerlo lo más coherentemente posible. Ya encontré algún duplicado generado por @Olea: a raíz de las capitales municipales, hay que tener más cuidado y revisar bien todo lo que añadimos nuevo. ¿Qué os parece si trasladamos este tema también al Café e intentamos llegar a algún acuerdo y unificar un poco la situación? Un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 06:07, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Por mí ningún problema. Un saludo, LMLM (talk) 11:11, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Vandalismo?

Hola, Vanbasten:

Siento haberte dado tanto trabajo corrigiendo ítems. Lo siento. Lo que no me ha gustado nada es que trates las correcciones como una cuestión de vandalismo. ¿No es más fácil pensar que se trata de un problema de falta de conocimiento? Más que una problema de vandalismo creo que puede ser un tema quizás ideológico o de falta de información por mi parte. No creo que etiquetando a la gente de vándalos consigas muchas amistades ni atraigas a mucho personal para trabajar en la wikidata. A mi al menos me has quitado las ganas para una temporada.

Atte. Ernestobanpiroa Ernestobanpiroa (talk) 18:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Buenas @Ernestobanpiroa: espero que estés muy bien, un saludo. Tampoco es para tanto, yo no te he etiquetado como vándalo, simplemente he indicado algunas ediciones como vandalismo, porque así lo parecían. No creía que fuese una falta de conocimiento poner Vizcaya o Navarra como país, ni tampoco un tema ideológico (podría ser poner País Vasco, pero Vizcaya no) o de falta de información. Si te lo he deshecho en vez de borrarlo directamente es únicamente para que veas el problema, aprendas y sigas aportando. Si tu me escribes y me dices que es un error, perfecto, no hay más historia. Unas veces nos equivocamos unos y otras otros, lo importante es mejorar. Un saludo. Vanbasten 23 (talk) 18:42, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Muchas gracias por responder. Lo de "vándalo" se puede leer en todas las etiquetas. Entiendo que no era tu intención. A veces nos pasamos de susceptibles en la wiki. Gracias de nuevo por las correcciones y perdona si he sido borde. Trataré de ser más cuidadoso. A ver si aprendo que ya llevo años.

Saludos:Ernestobanpiroa Ernestobanpiroa (talk) 18:55, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Patrimonio industrial

Holas. Entiendo perfectamente que retires los P31 de industrial heritage site (Q1569871). El problema es que estamos perdiendo información. Entiendo que nos pasa como con patrimonio inmaterial, que es difícil modelarlo, pero por eso se ha optado por marcar todos los elementos con maintained by WikiProject (P6104) = WikiProject Intangible Cultural Heritage (Q112898263), pero usando un «Wikiproyecto patrimonio industrial» que probablemente está por crear. No es un modelado nada estricto pero sirve para recuperar datos. —Ismael Olea (talk) 11:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Buenas @Olea: No se trata de retirar información valiosa, sino de retirar información no referenciada y basada en ¿qué? ¿quién ha decidido que ese elemento es un patrimonio industrial? Un cargadero puede parece un patrimonio industrial, pero porque lo parezca no lo es, tiene que identificarlo como tal una institución o asociación dedicada a ello. Yo estoy identificando todas los patrimonios industriales del país en base a la lista que sacó el gobierno dentro de su plan nacional, pero si cada gobierno autonómico lo ha hecho también, genial, se añaden, pero marcando dónde lo hizo, en qué boletín aparece. Después ya sería opinable si eso se pone en P31 o en "forma parte de" y "estatus patrimonial" como estoy haciendo yo, ya que instancia debería reservarse para lo que es esa cosa, como un cargadero, una fábrica o una locomotora, mientras las otras formas nos permiten ver otros rasgos de ese elemento. Dicho eso, he borrado todas las apariciones de patrimonio industrial que había, excepto las del País Vasco que se incluyeron todas así y el resto no tenían referencia alguna. Un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 12:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Bueno, no estoy de acuerdo. Entiendo lo de falta de referencias, pero si te pones a borrar todo lo que no tenga referencias en Wikidata, vas a hacer innecesario el «split». —Ismael Olea (talk) 14:53, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

@Olea: eso no tiene sentido. No voy a borrar una instancia "estatua" cuando lo que representa es una estatua, por mucho que no tenga referencia. Y no he borrado "embarcadero" cuando lo has añadido sin referencia, sino "patrimonio industrial" cuando entiendo que es una opinión, porque no aparece que lo sea. Un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 14:57, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Gracias por borrar las claims mal añadidas

Buenas, acabo de ver tu mensaje en mi PD. Tienes razón, he añadido información incorrecta a QuickStatements que se ha traducido en un buen lío. Tiene un botón de deshacer, pero creo que ya has hecho todo el trabajo duro de revisión tú, así que lo siento mucho y perdona las molestias. Voy a echarle un ojo a las cosas que no están revertidas para asegurarme de que no se ha escapado nada que estuviera mal. Gracias por todo.

Un saludo. ElleAnónime (talk) 23:31, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

"Un municipi italià"

Ei! Ara que hi pens, te pareix que podries canviar "un municipi italià" per "municipi italià" a aquests 6000 articles? Gràcies, Paucabot (talk) 11:15, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

@Paucabot: esta consulta me devuelve alguno menos, pero bueno... Si esta edición es la esperada lo hago todo con el bot y luego miramos qué es lo que queda. Un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 12:10, 24 June 2024 (UTC) PD: Fíjate que aquí pone "un municipi Italià" con Italià en mayúscula y tú me lo pusiste en minúscula.

Idò tens raó: s'hauria de canviar "un municipi Italià" per "municipi d'Itàlia". Crec que ho posaria així per coherència amb els municipis de Catalunya, per exemple. En resum: sense l'article i sense l'adjectiu (i el nom del país, a diferència de l'adjectiu, sí que ha d'anar en majúscula). Paucabot (talk) 17:12, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

@Paucabot: ya terminó. Lo pasé por otras instancias y parece que no quedan más. Un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 21:38, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Coordinate Me - congratulations

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Casa consistorial de Sanlúcar de Barrameda

Hola, Vanbasten 23. He visto que creaste muchos ítems de casas consistoriales de municipios españoles. En el caso de la casa consistorial de Sanlúcar de Barrameda ("Q126816364"), el edificio parece corresponderse con el Palacio de Orléans-Borbón (Q6058144) (corrígeme si me equivoco). ¿Tienes algún problema con que este tipo de ítems los fusione entre sí? Un saludo. strakhov (talk) 12:27, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Buenas @strakhov: un saludo. He creado las 8130 ayuntamientos, alcaldes y casas consistoriales que no había y he intentado mejorar los que había. Hice consultas antes de la inserción para encontrar aquellos casos que tenían "instancia de", pero también para encontrar elementos que tenían etiquetas o descripciones que indicaban que lo eran pero no tenían "instancia de". Limpié las casas consistoriales y alcaldes que ya no lo eran. Con ayuda de WMES puse las coordenadas en todos ellos (excepto en 120 que no encuentro ni en cartografía, ni en Google Maps, ni en OSM) y ahora estamos poniendo las fotografías de Commons en los elementos. Cuando hacemos esto último a veces se encuentran casos como el que indicas, y los fusionamos, así que te agradecería si lo haces en todos los casos que encuentres iguales. Muchas gracias. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 07:01, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Ok, eso haré. Interesante iniciativa, gracias. Por cierto, creo que, de acuerdo con las normas de Wikidata, hubiera sido más correcto que las etiquetas de estos ítems de casas consistoriales comenzaran con letra minúscula en la palabra "casa", pero bueno, tampoco es algo muy importante. Un saludo. strakhov (talk) 19:39, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

@strakhov: no tengo problema en cambiarlo, lo hice así porque el 95% (más o menos) de los que había creados (1500 más o menos) estaban así y por coherencia con los que había lo puse así. Un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 20:22, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

@strakhov: me escribiste aquí y dijiste "tampoco es algo muy importante" refiriéndote a la mayúscula en el nombre. Ahora cambias unas pocas y dejas todo el resto como estaba, con lo cuál todos los anexos de Wikipedia están desordenados. Como te dije aquí, no tengo problema en que se cambie, pero no unos pocos y dejar el resto de diferente manera. Un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 14:52, 12 August 2024 (UTC) PD: Véase esto.

No es algo tremendamente importante... pero es lo correcto. Y no hay motivo para deshacerlo. Es como si deshicieras en Wikipedia un cambio de "Primer Ministro" a "primer ministro". Y yo te dijera "¿por qué, si los cargos se escriben con minúscula?". Y tú me respondieras: "es que hay decenas de otros artículos en que está escrito con mayúscula inicial". Y yo te diría: "¿y a mí qué? no es mi problema". Saludos. strakhov (talk) 15:43, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

@strakhov: es que esa no es la situación. Hay 8132 elementos que están con la primera en mayúscula, siguiendo lo que ya estaba puesto en los 2000 que había creados. Ahora indicas que lo correcto es ponerlo en minúscula, bien, pero no parece buena idea cambiar 10-15 elementos únicamente, porque dejas 8115 de forma diferente y ocasionas problemas de ordenación en los anexos. En esta conversación te dije que podía cambiarlo, pero dijiste que no era importante, pero después cambias algunos. Todos o ninguno, pero no a medias. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 16:27, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Vanbasten_23: No hay 8132 elementos. Hay 112 468 651 elementos. Que han de cumplir unas normas y directrices. El tratamiento con las etiquetas es claro (no me lo he inventado yo ahora). Evidentemente, hay unos que lo hacen y otros que no (muchos de los cuales se habrá copiado sin más el título de la wiki correspondiente), pero no vamos a ponernos a deshacer a los que siguen las normas porque "o se corrigen todos a la vez, o si no todos mal". Saludos. strakhov (talk) 16:36, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

@strakhov: pero si es tan fácil como decir que sí, que es mejor cambiarlos, en vez de decir que no es importante. Si al final lo vas a ir haciendo tú poco a poco, ¿no tiene más sentido que me digas que cambie los 8132 en vez de decir que no es importante y lo hagas por tu cuenta? Un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 16:45, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Hombre, te dije lo que era correcto en Wikidata. Con esa información haz lo que consideres oportuno. Lo que no soy es nadie para pedir/exigir a nadie que haga nada (WIKIDATANOOBLIGADA etc). Cuando digo que no es importante, es que, si bien lo correcto es el formato indicado, no es algo que me quite lo suficiente el sueño como para ponerme como un poseso a corregir todas las etiquetas de todos los ítems de Wikidata (Wikidata está en obras, como en Wikipedia), siendo, más bien, algo que hago puntual. Si tú has encontrado un motivo fuerte para movilizarte a homogeneizar las etiquetas de un grupo concreto de ítems (un reuso de los datos en otro proyecto) pues adelante, pero evidentemente que sea hacia lo correcto en Wikidata, no en sentido opuesto. Lo que no veo bien es que me deshagas cambios en un ítem donde la edición es correcta. Wikidata es independiente de Wikipedia. Saludos. strakhov (talk) 16:51, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

@strakhov: no es pedir o exigir, es comentar que sería mejor cambiar todos, nada más. Me hubiera puesto a hacerlo y estarían todos de la misma forma, y no 10-15 de forma diferente. Tal y como están yo prefiero que estén 8132 con mayúscula y todos iguales, porque tampoco creo que sea importante, a que haya 10-15 de forma diferente. Es más fácil hablarlo que no estar cambiando cosas sin comentarlo antes, porque lo veo después de un tiempo con los anexos ya desordenados. Para mi es más fácil deshacer una edición y hablar sobre ello que cambiarlo sin que lo vea. Un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 17:29, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Comentado está: "Por cierto, creo que, de acuerdo con las normas de Wikidata, hubiera sido más correcto que las etiquetas de estos ítems de casas consistoriales comenzaran con letra minúscula en la palabra "casa"".

Como comprenderás, cada vez que un editor edite un elemento de Wikidata no va a buscarte y preguntarte si a ti te parece bien, porque lo estás usando en nosecual lugar fuera de Wikidata.

El progreso en Wikidata va en dirección a donde apuntan las normas. Y si se modifican o crean ítems para que no las cumplan lo natural es que, poco a poco (o quizás si hay suerte alguien se anima a hacerlo de golpe y porrazo), los usuarios que conozcan Wikidata vayan corrigiéndolos. Tu situación "8132 con mayúscula y todos iguales" es inestable y no tiene visos de perdurar (en realidad en una wiki abierta es un poco ingenuo aspirar a la homogeneidad y la perfección, pero esa situación es todavía más "volátil" que la otra, pues apunta en contra de las normas). Un saludo, no creo que tenga mucho más que añadir sobre esto, pero si sigues teniendo alguna duda... strakhov (talk) 17:52, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

@strakhov: está claro desde que vi tus 10-15 cambios, no hay más historia, lo cambiaré, pero si en unos mensajes aludes a las normas, y después dices que no es importante, al final no queda clara tu posición. No espero que un editor venga a buscarme y preguntarme, pero sí que lo hagas tú cuando hemos estado hablando del tema. Así nos evitaríamos pérdidas de tiempo. Un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 19:26, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Ayuntamientos situados en otro término municipal

Por si sirve: Revisando ayuntamientos, he encontrado un par que les has puesto el located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) de su término municipal cuando en realidad se encuentran en el término municipal de otro municipio. No sé cuántos casos de estos hay por España pero si has puesto sistemáticamente el propio municipio tal vez convenga revisarlos. Las direcciones postales pueden ser útiles para detectar estas situaciones.

Iba a comentar también los duplicados pero veo que ya hay un hilo sobre el tema. Las categorías de Commons ayuda a encontrar algunos. Pere prlpz (talk) 12:13, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Buenas @Pere prlpz: vamos revisando poco a poco todas las categorías de Commons. Las casas consistoriales y ayuntamientos son justamente los que deben ser, ni uno más ni uno menos, pero en ocasiones un edificio o palacio es una casa consistorial y no está indicada como tal y entonces los fusionamos, encontramos varios casos, seguimos revisando. Sobre lo primero que me dices no entiendo a qué te refieres porque siempre he puesto el municipio, ¿puedes indicarme esos dos casos? Gracias. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 20:52, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

El ayuntamiento de les Valls de Valira está situado en el término de la Seu d'Urgell y el de Conca de Dalt está situado en el término de la Pobla de Segur. Estos dos ya los he arreglado. No sé si hay más casos pero podría ser. Si sirve de ejemplo, creo que después que Lekunberri se separara de Larraun el ayuntamiento de Larraun siguió en Lekunberri durante unos años, pero luego lo trasladaron a un núcleo de Larraun. Pere prlpz (talk) 22:23, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Buah @Pere prlpz: ni me había planteado que podía darse ese caso. Todas las coordenadas que hice a mano son correctas, pero podría ser que haya algún caso de las automáticas que esté mal, tal y como indicas, gracias por el aviso. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 06:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Por si acaso me he explicado mal: Las coordenadas en estos municipios son correctas (y además diría que no he encontrado hasta ahora ningún ayuntamiento con coordenadas incorrectas). Es la casa consistorial la que está situada en la realidad fuera del término municipal. Entonces, lo que estaba mal era la propiedad located in the administrative territorial entity (P131). Pere prlpz (talk) 08:43, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Un caso más complicado todavía: De acuerdo con http://www.oden.cat/, el ayuntamiento atiende un día a la semana en un edificio que está en el término municipal, y cuatro días en un local de Solsona[8], que no es ni siquiera limítrofe. En Odén town hall (Q126855100) le has puesto las coordenadas del segundo y el P131 del primero. Entiendo que aquí el correcto es el de Solsona porque es el que dice "Ajuntament d'Odèn" en la puerta, pero tengo mis dudas de si hay algun criterio más fiable que este.--Pere prlpz (talk) 14:52, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Gracias por los cambios @Pere prlpz: sí que son casos extraños. De momento no encontré otros así. En el norte no se suelen dar, quizá es más probables en municipios pequeños. Un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 09:36, 9 August 2024 (UTC)