Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford Italian Dictionary: English-Italian ID

Pocket Oxford Italian Dictionary: English-Italian ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Done: English-Italian Dictionary ID (P12892) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for a subject page in the Pocket Oxford Italian Dictionary: English-Italian
Represents	Pocket Oxford Italian Dictionary: English-Italian (Q126871296)
Data type	External identifier
Allowed values	[0-9]\d*
Example 1	Islam (L36825) → 0015163
Example 2	Muslim (L296400) → 0018265
Example 3	Qur'an/Koran (L1325138) → 0015676
Source	https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780191739552.001.0001/acref-9780191739552
Number of IDs in source	31,132 IDs (date: 22 June 2024)
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Implied notability	Wikidata property for an identifier that does not imply notability (Q62589320)
Formatter URL	https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780191739552.001.0001/b-en-it-00002-$1
See also	Oxford Reference overview ID (P12582)
Applicable "stated in"-value	Pocket Oxford Italian Dictionary: English-Italian (Q126871296)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Authority control (Q88300058), WikiProject Languages (Q8486980), WikiProject Linguistics (Q10857957)

Motivation

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Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: Highly authoritative source in the Pocket Oxford Italian Dictionary: English-Italian (Q126871296) (URL: https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780191739552.001.0001/acref-9780191739552). --Soufiyouns (talk) 13:05, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Support Back ache (talk) 14:22, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
• That's enough with the English dictionaries, don't you think? (We could have more Italian dictionary properties, but Oxford may not be the best source for them.) Mahir256 (talk) 16:10, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
•  Comment: @Mahir256: This is a complementary property to the reverse property proposal (Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford Italian Dictionary: Italian-English ID) for the Italian-English bilingual pocket dictionary, and I think this pair of reverse dictionaries would be useful in Wikidata. Regards. --Soufiyouns (talk) 13:34, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

  @Mahir256:, would you like to give your opinion? Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 06:49, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

The above statement is my opinion; I don't think a property for this is necessary at all, but if other people think it is then I will not stop them from using it (assuming, of course, that they do use it, rather than leaving the property dormant). Mahir256 (talk) 16:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

@Soufiyouns@Back ache will you use this property? or this will dormant like Spanish-English Dictionary ID (P12821), English-Irish Dictionary ID (P12833), Italian-English Dictionary ID (P12885)! Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 03:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Not personally no, I have just been helping out with the URL match patterns.

That doen't mean it should be killed off though. Back ache (talk) 09:38, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

•  Comment I modestly believe that we are pioneers in this field of multilingual lexemes in Wikidata, and that we are preparing the ground for a new generation of users who will find the tools necessary to develop lexemes in a global perspective with items using artificial intelligence. These identifiers and properties of bilingual Oxford dictionaries are here to mark the ground for future technological advances. Regards. --Soufiyouns (talk) 06:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

  true, I have alway seen wikidata as something that can join remote sets of data together. Back ache (talk) 09:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

• @Soufiyouns, Back ache, Mahir256:  Done as English-Italian Dictionary ID (P12892). Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 07:29, 11 July 2024 (UTC)